A randomized clinical trial with a 0.6% amino acid/ 1.4% glycerol peritoneal dialysis solution
Glucose is an accepted osmotic agent for peritoneal dialysis (PD) although it has several drawbacks. Some of these drawbacks have been addressed by the introduction of solutions with low glucose degradation products and physiological pH in dual-chambered bags. Despite this achievement, there is a ne...
Gespeichert in:
Veröffentlicht in: | Peritoneal dialysis international 2004-05, Vol.24 (3), p.222-230 |
---|---|
Hauptverfasser: | , , , , , , |
Format: | Artikel |
Sprache: | eng |
Schlagworte: | |
Online-Zugang: | Volltext |
Tags: |
Tag hinzufügen
Keine Tags, Fügen Sie den ersten Tag hinzu!
|
container_end_page | 230 |
---|---|
container_issue | 3 |
container_start_page | 222 |
container_title | Peritoneal dialysis international |
container_volume | 24 |
creator | Van Biesen, W Boer, W De Greve, B Dequidt, C Vijt, D Faict, D Lameire, N |
description | Glucose is an accepted osmotic agent for peritoneal dialysis (PD) although it has several drawbacks. Some of these drawbacks have been addressed by the introduction of solutions with low glucose degradation products and physiological pH in dual-chambered bags. Despite this achievement, there is a need for alternative osmotic agents.This randomized clinical trial analyzes 3-month's clinical experience with a mixture of 0.6% amino acids and 1.4% glycerol.
The study was performed at the renal units of the University Hospitals Ghent, Belgium, and Utrecht, The Netherlands. Stable PD patients were randomized for either protocol A (test solution, n = 5) or protocol B (control regimen, n = 5). In both protocols, there was a run-in phase of 1 month with a dialysis regimen of 2 x 2 L 2.27% glucose solution (Dianeal; Baxter, Nivelles, Belgium), 1 x 2 L Extraneal (Baxter), and 1 x 2 L glucose solution (Dianeal). After this month-long run-in period, patients in group A received during 3 months 2 x 2 L amino acid/glycerol solution, 1 x 2 L Extraneal, and at least 1 x 2 L of a classic glucose solution.
Glucose absorption decreased in the test group during the test phase (from 84.2 +/- 8.7 to 11.7 +/- 11.6 g/24 hours, p = 0.001). Dialysate levels of cancer antigen 125 (CA125) increased in the test group, from 17.5 +/- 11.0 to 32.4 +/- 4.6 units/L (p = 0.04), whereas, in the control group, the levels remained stable (15.5 +/- 8.7 and 14.9 +/- 9.8 units/L respectively, p = 0.4). There were no differences in serum urea, serum bicarbonate, serum osmolarity, serum albumin, or parameters related to skin-fold thickness or serum glycerol levels between control and test solutions. No differences were observed in obtained ultrafiltration after a 4-hour dwell with 2.27% glucose or the test solution, both measured at week 4 of the run-in period and week 12 of the test period.
This study demonstrated that the use of a new 0.6% amino acid/1.4% glycerol-containing dialysis solution is safe and well tolerated. Glucose load was reduced significantly and dialysate CA125 levels improved significantly. Ultrafiltration was comparable with that of a 2.27% glucose solution. All these factors, in combination with the potential nutritional benefits, can contribute to a beneficial impact on the success of the PD technique. Further long-term studies in larger patient groups are warranted to explore the potential of this promising new solution. |
doi_str_mv | 10.1177/089686080402400304 |
format | Article |
fullrecord | <record><control><sourceid>proquest_cross</sourceid><recordid>TN_cdi_proquest_miscellaneous_71999668</recordid><sourceformat>XML</sourceformat><sourcesystem>PC</sourcesystem><sourcerecordid>71999668</sourcerecordid><originalsourceid>FETCH-LOGICAL-c403t-103720d28ab535bf5e1d6306791ecae7f17c51e33cb2c338313e8e8830715f63</originalsourceid><addsrcrecordid>eNplkMFq3DAQhkVpabZJX6CHosv25s2MZFvyMYQ0LQR6yTlCK4-zKrK1lbyY7dNXSxYS6GVmDt__w3yMfUHYICp1DbprdQsaahA1gIT6HVuhQl3V5X7PViegOhEX7FPOvwsiJKiP7AIb1I1SsGJPNzzZqY-j_0s9d8FP3tnA5-TLXPy845bDpl1zO_opcut8f81xU6_5czg6SjHwPSU_x4lKoC-pY_aZ5xgOs4_TFfsw2JDp83lfssfvd4-3P6qHX_c_b28eKleDnCsEqQT0QtttI5vt0BD2rYRWdUjOkhpQuQZJSrcVTkotUZImrcs32AytvGTfXmr3Kf45UJ7N6LOjEOxE8ZCNwq7r2lYXULyALsWcEw1mn_xo09EgmJNU87_UEvp6bj9sR-pfI2eLBVifAZuLvaEYdT6_4ZSSoOtXbuefd4tPZPJoQyi1wizLImojjRBC_gPzrIlo</addsrcrecordid><sourcetype>Aggregation Database</sourcetype><iscdi>true</iscdi><recordtype>article</recordtype><pqid>71999668</pqid></control><display><type>article</type><title>A randomized clinical trial with a 0.6% amino acid/ 1.4% glycerol peritoneal dialysis solution</title><source>MEDLINE</source><source>SAGE Complete</source><creator>Van Biesen, W ; Boer, W ; De Greve, B ; Dequidt, C ; Vijt, D ; Faict, D ; Lameire, N</creator><creatorcontrib>Van Biesen, W ; Boer, W ; De Greve, B ; Dequidt, C ; Vijt, D ; Faict, D ; Lameire, N</creatorcontrib><description>Glucose is an accepted osmotic agent for peritoneal dialysis (PD) although it has several drawbacks. Some of these drawbacks have been addressed by the introduction of solutions with low glucose degradation products and physiological pH in dual-chambered bags. Despite this achievement, there is a need for alternative osmotic agents.This randomized clinical trial analyzes 3-month's clinical experience with a mixture of 0.6% amino acids and 1.4% glycerol.
The study was performed at the renal units of the University Hospitals Ghent, Belgium, and Utrecht, The Netherlands. Stable PD patients were randomized for either protocol A (test solution, n = 5) or protocol B (control regimen, n = 5). In both protocols, there was a run-in phase of 1 month with a dialysis regimen of 2 x 2 L 2.27% glucose solution (Dianeal; Baxter, Nivelles, Belgium), 1 x 2 L Extraneal (Baxter), and 1 x 2 L glucose solution (Dianeal). After this month-long run-in period, patients in group A received during 3 months 2 x 2 L amino acid/glycerol solution, 1 x 2 L Extraneal, and at least 1 x 2 L of a classic glucose solution.
Glucose absorption decreased in the test group during the test phase (from 84.2 +/- 8.7 to 11.7 +/- 11.6 g/24 hours, p = 0.001). Dialysate levels of cancer antigen 125 (CA125) increased in the test group, from 17.5 +/- 11.0 to 32.4 +/- 4.6 units/L (p = 0.04), whereas, in the control group, the levels remained stable (15.5 +/- 8.7 and 14.9 +/- 9.8 units/L respectively, p = 0.4). There were no differences in serum urea, serum bicarbonate, serum osmolarity, serum albumin, or parameters related to skin-fold thickness or serum glycerol levels between control and test solutions. No differences were observed in obtained ultrafiltration after a 4-hour dwell with 2.27% glucose or the test solution, both measured at week 4 of the run-in period and week 12 of the test period.
This study demonstrated that the use of a new 0.6% amino acid/1.4% glycerol-containing dialysis solution is safe and well tolerated. Glucose load was reduced significantly and dialysate CA125 levels improved significantly. Ultrafiltration was comparable with that of a 2.27% glucose solution. All these factors, in combination with the potential nutritional benefits, can contribute to a beneficial impact on the success of the PD technique. Further long-term studies in larger patient groups are warranted to explore the potential of this promising new solution.</description><identifier>ISSN: 0896-8608</identifier><identifier>EISSN: 1718-4304</identifier><identifier>DOI: 10.1177/089686080402400304</identifier><identifier>PMID: 15185770</identifier><language>eng</language><publisher>Milton, ON: Multimed</publisher><subject>Adult ; Aged ; Amino Acids - pharmacology ; Anesthesia. Intensive care medicine. Transfusions. Cell therapy and gene therapy ; Biological and medical sciences ; Dialysis Solutions - pharmacology ; Emergency and intensive care: renal failure. Dialysis management ; Female ; Follow-Up Studies ; Glomerulonephritis ; Glycerol - pharmacology ; Humans ; Intensive care medicine ; Kidney Diseases - metabolism ; Kidney Diseases - therapy ; Male ; Medical sciences ; Middle Aged ; Nephrology. Urinary tract diseases ; Nephropathies. Renovascular diseases. Renal failure ; Nutritional Status - drug effects ; Peritoneal Dialysis, Continuous Ambulatory ; Prospective Studies ; Surgery (general aspects). Transplantations, organ and tissue grafts. Graft diseases ; Surgery of the urinary system ; Time Factors ; Ultrafiltration ; Water-Electrolyte Balance - drug effects</subject><ispartof>Peritoneal dialysis international, 2004-05, Vol.24 (3), p.222-230</ispartof><rights>2004 INIST-CNRS</rights><lds50>peer_reviewed</lds50><oa>free_for_read</oa><woscitedreferencessubscribed>false</woscitedreferencessubscribed><citedby>FETCH-LOGICAL-c403t-103720d28ab535bf5e1d6306791ecae7f17c51e33cb2c338313e8e8830715f63</citedby><cites>FETCH-LOGICAL-c403t-103720d28ab535bf5e1d6306791ecae7f17c51e33cb2c338313e8e8830715f63</cites></display><links><openurl>$$Topenurl_article</openurl><openurlfulltext>$$Topenurlfull_article</openurlfulltext><thumbnail>$$Tsyndetics_thumb_exl</thumbnail><link.rule.ids>314,776,780,27901,27902</link.rule.ids><backlink>$$Uhttp://pascal-francis.inist.fr/vibad/index.php?action=getRecordDetail&idt=15773084$$DView record in Pascal Francis$$Hfree_for_read</backlink><backlink>$$Uhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15185770$$D View this record in MEDLINE/PubMed$$Hfree_for_read</backlink></links><search><creatorcontrib>Van Biesen, W</creatorcontrib><creatorcontrib>Boer, W</creatorcontrib><creatorcontrib>De Greve, B</creatorcontrib><creatorcontrib>Dequidt, C</creatorcontrib><creatorcontrib>Vijt, D</creatorcontrib><creatorcontrib>Faict, D</creatorcontrib><creatorcontrib>Lameire, N</creatorcontrib><title>A randomized clinical trial with a 0.6% amino acid/ 1.4% glycerol peritoneal dialysis solution</title><title>Peritoneal dialysis international</title><addtitle>Perit Dial Int</addtitle><description>Glucose is an accepted osmotic agent for peritoneal dialysis (PD) although it has several drawbacks. Some of these drawbacks have been addressed by the introduction of solutions with low glucose degradation products and physiological pH in dual-chambered bags. Despite this achievement, there is a need for alternative osmotic agents.This randomized clinical trial analyzes 3-month's clinical experience with a mixture of 0.6% amino acids and 1.4% glycerol.
The study was performed at the renal units of the University Hospitals Ghent, Belgium, and Utrecht, The Netherlands. Stable PD patients were randomized for either protocol A (test solution, n = 5) or protocol B (control regimen, n = 5). In both protocols, there was a run-in phase of 1 month with a dialysis regimen of 2 x 2 L 2.27% glucose solution (Dianeal; Baxter, Nivelles, Belgium), 1 x 2 L Extraneal (Baxter), and 1 x 2 L glucose solution (Dianeal). After this month-long run-in period, patients in group A received during 3 months 2 x 2 L amino acid/glycerol solution, 1 x 2 L Extraneal, and at least 1 x 2 L of a classic glucose solution.
Glucose absorption decreased in the test group during the test phase (from 84.2 +/- 8.7 to 11.7 +/- 11.6 g/24 hours, p = 0.001). Dialysate levels of cancer antigen 125 (CA125) increased in the test group, from 17.5 +/- 11.0 to 32.4 +/- 4.6 units/L (p = 0.04), whereas, in the control group, the levels remained stable (15.5 +/- 8.7 and 14.9 +/- 9.8 units/L respectively, p = 0.4). There were no differences in serum urea, serum bicarbonate, serum osmolarity, serum albumin, or parameters related to skin-fold thickness or serum glycerol levels between control and test solutions. No differences were observed in obtained ultrafiltration after a 4-hour dwell with 2.27% glucose or the test solution, both measured at week 4 of the run-in period and week 12 of the test period.
This study demonstrated that the use of a new 0.6% amino acid/1.4% glycerol-containing dialysis solution is safe and well tolerated. Glucose load was reduced significantly and dialysate CA125 levels improved significantly. Ultrafiltration was comparable with that of a 2.27% glucose solution. All these factors, in combination with the potential nutritional benefits, can contribute to a beneficial impact on the success of the PD technique. Further long-term studies in larger patient groups are warranted to explore the potential of this promising new solution.</description><subject>Adult</subject><subject>Aged</subject><subject>Amino Acids - pharmacology</subject><subject>Anesthesia. Intensive care medicine. Transfusions. Cell therapy and gene therapy</subject><subject>Biological and medical sciences</subject><subject>Dialysis Solutions - pharmacology</subject><subject>Emergency and intensive care: renal failure. Dialysis management</subject><subject>Female</subject><subject>Follow-Up Studies</subject><subject>Glomerulonephritis</subject><subject>Glycerol - pharmacology</subject><subject>Humans</subject><subject>Intensive care medicine</subject><subject>Kidney Diseases - metabolism</subject><subject>Kidney Diseases - therapy</subject><subject>Male</subject><subject>Medical sciences</subject><subject>Middle Aged</subject><subject>Nephrology. Urinary tract diseases</subject><subject>Nephropathies. Renovascular diseases. Renal failure</subject><subject>Nutritional Status - drug effects</subject><subject>Peritoneal Dialysis, Continuous Ambulatory</subject><subject>Prospective Studies</subject><subject>Surgery (general aspects). Transplantations, organ and tissue grafts. Graft diseases</subject><subject>Surgery of the urinary system</subject><subject>Time Factors</subject><subject>Ultrafiltration</subject><subject>Water-Electrolyte Balance - drug effects</subject><issn>0896-8608</issn><issn>1718-4304</issn><fulltext>true</fulltext><rsrctype>article</rsrctype><creationdate>2004</creationdate><recordtype>article</recordtype><sourceid>EIF</sourceid><recordid>eNplkMFq3DAQhkVpabZJX6CHosv25s2MZFvyMYQ0LQR6yTlCK4-zKrK1lbyY7dNXSxYS6GVmDt__w3yMfUHYICp1DbprdQsaahA1gIT6HVuhQl3V5X7PViegOhEX7FPOvwsiJKiP7AIb1I1SsGJPNzzZqY-j_0s9d8FP3tnA5-TLXPy845bDpl1zO_opcut8f81xU6_5czg6SjHwPSU_x4lKoC-pY_aZ5xgOs4_TFfsw2JDp83lfssfvd4-3P6qHX_c_b28eKleDnCsEqQT0QtttI5vt0BD2rYRWdUjOkhpQuQZJSrcVTkotUZImrcs32AytvGTfXmr3Kf45UJ7N6LOjEOxE8ZCNwq7r2lYXULyALsWcEw1mn_xo09EgmJNU87_UEvp6bj9sR-pfI2eLBVifAZuLvaEYdT6_4ZSSoOtXbuefd4tPZPJoQyi1wizLImojjRBC_gPzrIlo</recordid><startdate>20040501</startdate><enddate>20040501</enddate><creator>Van Biesen, W</creator><creator>Boer, W</creator><creator>De Greve, B</creator><creator>Dequidt, C</creator><creator>Vijt, D</creator><creator>Faict, D</creator><creator>Lameire, N</creator><general>Multimed</general><scope>IQODW</scope><scope>CGR</scope><scope>CUY</scope><scope>CVF</scope><scope>ECM</scope><scope>EIF</scope><scope>NPM</scope><scope>AAYXX</scope><scope>CITATION</scope><scope>7X8</scope></search><sort><creationdate>20040501</creationdate><title>A randomized clinical trial with a 0.6% amino acid/ 1.4% glycerol peritoneal dialysis solution</title><author>Van Biesen, W ; Boer, W ; De Greve, B ; Dequidt, C ; Vijt, D ; Faict, D ; Lameire, N</author></sort><facets><frbrtype>5</frbrtype><frbrgroupid>cdi_FETCH-LOGICAL-c403t-103720d28ab535bf5e1d6306791ecae7f17c51e33cb2c338313e8e8830715f63</frbrgroupid><rsrctype>articles</rsrctype><prefilter>articles</prefilter><language>eng</language><creationdate>2004</creationdate><topic>Adult</topic><topic>Aged</topic><topic>Amino Acids - pharmacology</topic><topic>Anesthesia. Intensive care medicine. Transfusions. Cell therapy and gene therapy</topic><topic>Biological and medical sciences</topic><topic>Dialysis Solutions - pharmacology</topic><topic>Emergency and intensive care: renal failure. Dialysis management</topic><topic>Female</topic><topic>Follow-Up Studies</topic><topic>Glomerulonephritis</topic><topic>Glycerol - pharmacology</topic><topic>Humans</topic><topic>Intensive care medicine</topic><topic>Kidney Diseases - metabolism</topic><topic>Kidney Diseases - therapy</topic><topic>Male</topic><topic>Medical sciences</topic><topic>Middle Aged</topic><topic>Nephrology. Urinary tract diseases</topic><topic>Nephropathies. Renovascular diseases. Renal failure</topic><topic>Nutritional Status - drug effects</topic><topic>Peritoneal Dialysis, Continuous Ambulatory</topic><topic>Prospective Studies</topic><topic>Surgery (general aspects). Transplantations, organ and tissue grafts. Graft diseases</topic><topic>Surgery of the urinary system</topic><topic>Time Factors</topic><topic>Ultrafiltration</topic><topic>Water-Electrolyte Balance - drug effects</topic><toplevel>peer_reviewed</toplevel><toplevel>online_resources</toplevel><creatorcontrib>Van Biesen, W</creatorcontrib><creatorcontrib>Boer, W</creatorcontrib><creatorcontrib>De Greve, B</creatorcontrib><creatorcontrib>Dequidt, C</creatorcontrib><creatorcontrib>Vijt, D</creatorcontrib><creatorcontrib>Faict, D</creatorcontrib><creatorcontrib>Lameire, N</creatorcontrib><collection>Pascal-Francis</collection><collection>Medline</collection><collection>MEDLINE</collection><collection>MEDLINE (Ovid)</collection><collection>MEDLINE</collection><collection>MEDLINE</collection><collection>PubMed</collection><collection>CrossRef</collection><collection>MEDLINE - Academic</collection><jtitle>Peritoneal dialysis international</jtitle></facets><delivery><delcategory>Remote Search Resource</delcategory><fulltext>fulltext</fulltext></delivery><addata><au>Van Biesen, W</au><au>Boer, W</au><au>De Greve, B</au><au>Dequidt, C</au><au>Vijt, D</au><au>Faict, D</au><au>Lameire, N</au><format>journal</format><genre>article</genre><ristype>JOUR</ristype><atitle>A randomized clinical trial with a 0.6% amino acid/ 1.4% glycerol peritoneal dialysis solution</atitle><jtitle>Peritoneal dialysis international</jtitle><addtitle>Perit Dial Int</addtitle><date>2004-05-01</date><risdate>2004</risdate><volume>24</volume><issue>3</issue><spage>222</spage><epage>230</epage><pages>222-230</pages><issn>0896-8608</issn><eissn>1718-4304</eissn><abstract>Glucose is an accepted osmotic agent for peritoneal dialysis (PD) although it has several drawbacks. Some of these drawbacks have been addressed by the introduction of solutions with low glucose degradation products and physiological pH in dual-chambered bags. Despite this achievement, there is a need for alternative osmotic agents.This randomized clinical trial analyzes 3-month's clinical experience with a mixture of 0.6% amino acids and 1.4% glycerol.
The study was performed at the renal units of the University Hospitals Ghent, Belgium, and Utrecht, The Netherlands. Stable PD patients were randomized for either protocol A (test solution, n = 5) or protocol B (control regimen, n = 5). In both protocols, there was a run-in phase of 1 month with a dialysis regimen of 2 x 2 L 2.27% glucose solution (Dianeal; Baxter, Nivelles, Belgium), 1 x 2 L Extraneal (Baxter), and 1 x 2 L glucose solution (Dianeal). After this month-long run-in period, patients in group A received during 3 months 2 x 2 L amino acid/glycerol solution, 1 x 2 L Extraneal, and at least 1 x 2 L of a classic glucose solution.
Glucose absorption decreased in the test group during the test phase (from 84.2 +/- 8.7 to 11.7 +/- 11.6 g/24 hours, p = 0.001). Dialysate levels of cancer antigen 125 (CA125) increased in the test group, from 17.5 +/- 11.0 to 32.4 +/- 4.6 units/L (p = 0.04), whereas, in the control group, the levels remained stable (15.5 +/- 8.7 and 14.9 +/- 9.8 units/L respectively, p = 0.4). There were no differences in serum urea, serum bicarbonate, serum osmolarity, serum albumin, or parameters related to skin-fold thickness or serum glycerol levels between control and test solutions. No differences were observed in obtained ultrafiltration after a 4-hour dwell with 2.27% glucose or the test solution, both measured at week 4 of the run-in period and week 12 of the test period.
This study demonstrated that the use of a new 0.6% amino acid/1.4% glycerol-containing dialysis solution is safe and well tolerated. Glucose load was reduced significantly and dialysate CA125 levels improved significantly. Ultrafiltration was comparable with that of a 2.27% glucose solution. All these factors, in combination with the potential nutritional benefits, can contribute to a beneficial impact on the success of the PD technique. Further long-term studies in larger patient groups are warranted to explore the potential of this promising new solution.</abstract><cop>Milton, ON</cop><pub>Multimed</pub><pmid>15185770</pmid><doi>10.1177/089686080402400304</doi><tpages>9</tpages><oa>free_for_read</oa></addata></record> |
fulltext | fulltext |
identifier | ISSN: 0896-8608 |
ispartof | Peritoneal dialysis international, 2004-05, Vol.24 (3), p.222-230 |
issn | 0896-8608 1718-4304 |
language | eng |
recordid | cdi_proquest_miscellaneous_71999668 |
source | MEDLINE; SAGE Complete |
subjects | Adult Aged Amino Acids - pharmacology Anesthesia. Intensive care medicine. Transfusions. Cell therapy and gene therapy Biological and medical sciences Dialysis Solutions - pharmacology Emergency and intensive care: renal failure. Dialysis management Female Follow-Up Studies Glomerulonephritis Glycerol - pharmacology Humans Intensive care medicine Kidney Diseases - metabolism Kidney Diseases - therapy Male Medical sciences Middle Aged Nephrology. Urinary tract diseases Nephropathies. Renovascular diseases. Renal failure Nutritional Status - drug effects Peritoneal Dialysis, Continuous Ambulatory Prospective Studies Surgery (general aspects). Transplantations, organ and tissue grafts. Graft diseases Surgery of the urinary system Time Factors Ultrafiltration Water-Electrolyte Balance - drug effects |
title | A randomized clinical trial with a 0.6% amino acid/ 1.4% glycerol peritoneal dialysis solution |
url | https://sfx.bib-bvb.de/sfx_tum?ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&ctx_enc=info:ofi/enc:UTF-8&ctx_tim=2025-02-07T22%3A59%3A34IST&url_ver=Z39.88-2004&url_ctx_fmt=infofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rfr_id=info:sid/primo.exlibrisgroup.com:primo3-Article-proquest_cross&rft_val_fmt=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:journal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=A%20randomized%20clinical%20trial%20with%20a%200.6%25%20amino%20acid/%201.4%25%20glycerol%20peritoneal%20dialysis%20solution&rft.jtitle=Peritoneal%20dialysis%20international&rft.au=Van%20Biesen,%20W&rft.date=2004-05-01&rft.volume=24&rft.issue=3&rft.spage=222&rft.epage=230&rft.pages=222-230&rft.issn=0896-8608&rft.eissn=1718-4304&rft_id=info:doi/10.1177/089686080402400304&rft_dat=%3Cproquest_cross%3E71999668%3C/proquest_cross%3E%3Curl%3E%3C/url%3E&disable_directlink=true&sfx.directlink=off&sfx.report_link=0&rft_id=info:oai/&rft_pqid=71999668&rft_id=info:pmid/15185770&rfr_iscdi=true |