Marx and Veblen on Human Nature, History, and Capitalism: Vive la Différence

It is demonstrated that the recent attempts by Davis (1980) and Hunt (1979) to revise the Marx-Veblen relationship should be resisted. Marx's and Veblen's fundamental assumptions and methodologies, it is argued, were quite different. Thus, while there are some similarities, they are at the...

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Conspicuous consumption
Darwinism
Dialectic
Dialectical materialism
Economic theory
Economists
History
Human Nature
Marx, Karl
Marxian economics
Marxism
Marxist Analysis
Methodology (Philosophical)
Profitability theory
Social History
Social sciences
Social Theories
Socialism
Sociology
Studies
Teleology
Veblen, Thorstein Bunde
Veblen, Thorstein Bunde (1857-1929)
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